Comments on: To the People Who Think Israel is the Problem http://firsttube.com/read/to-the-people-who-think-israel/ crunchy nuggets, served semi-daily Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:44:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Matt http://firsttube.com/read/to-the-people-who-think-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-441 Matt Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:05:22 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/To-the-People-Who-Think-Israel#comment-441 ' it must be rooted in anti-semitism '<br /> <br /> typical comment, as soon as someone opposes the jewish view everyone screams anti-semitism!<br /> <br /> Horizon-riche you make some good points mate... ‘ it must be rooted in anti-semitism ‘

typical comment, as soon as someone opposes the jewish view everyone screams anti-semitism!

Horizon-riche you make some good points mate…

]]> By: Alan http://firsttube.com/read/to-the-people-who-think-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-440 Alan Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:43:49 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/To-the-People-Who-Think-Israel#comment-440 Horizon-riche is so far in left field that it must be rooted in anti-semitism. His writing shows that he is an otherwise intelligent person. It's amazing that someone can become so misguided... Sad really. Horizon-riche is so far in left field that it must be rooted in anti-semitism. His writing shows that he is an otherwise intelligent person. It’s amazing that someone can become so misguided… Sad really.

]]> By: Horizon-riche http://firsttube.com/read/to-the-people-who-think-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-387 Horizon-riche Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:37:46 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/To-the-People-Who-Think-Israel#comment-387 1. False and lies<br /> <br /> 2. False and lies<br /> <br /> 3. False and lies<br /> <br /> 4. False and lies<br /> <br /> 5. False and lies<br /> <br /> 6. False and lies<br /> <br /> 7. False and lies<br /> <br /> 8. False and lies<br /> <br /> 9. False and lies<br /> <br /> 10. False and lies<br /> <br /> 11. False and lies<br /> <br /> 12. False and lies<br /> <br /> 13. False and lies<br /> <br /> 14. False and lies<br /> <br /> 15. False and lies<br /> <br /> 16. False and lies<br /> <br /> 17. False and lies<br /> <br /> <br /> - A case was brought before the king where as two women claimed a child as there infant. <br /> <br /> Both argued that the child was theres as he was the son of a prominant but recently deceasesed salesman and that a fortune was tied to the child , the salesman add many wife , many daughters , but only one son.<br /> <br /> The king asked to hear both women who claimed the child as there's<br /> <br /> Both made a pretty decent argument as to who could be the mother.<br /> <br /> Then the King retired to is room in order to think on the mather.<br /> <br /> When he cameback from his thinking the next day he said that he had made a decision and that both women would receive half of the fortune and that the child would be cut in half so that each mother would receive an equal amount of the child.<br /> <br /> The first women was very happy and agreed with the king decision.<br /> <br /> The second one jumped to the king feet and pleaded with him to give the entire fortune to the first women but to give her the entire child or to even give the full child to the other women as she could not bare the fact of seing her child die in such circumstance.<br /> <br /> Then the king told the second women to not fear anything as the fortune and the child was her's from that moment and he then turned to the other women and sentenced her to death.<br /> <br /> The women started to plea for her life but the king would not change is mind , then the mother asked the king to spare the women life , the king asked why , she said that death was what she wanted for her child and that the king denied her wish , it should be the king desire to continue in its value to protect life to choose another sentence for this women , since she wanted to be the child mother and enjoy the fortune would it not be more fitting that she be put in charge of protecting the child and fortune that she so much wanted as a servant and nourice so that she may see and enjoy what she wanted most.<br /> <br /> and so it was.<br /> <br /> The point is , Israelite might whant their own country and peace , but can never enjoy it by stealing it from another and denying that same country peace in turn.<br /> <br /> If Jerusalem is truely their's , they should have no qualm making it as the vatican is a holy city and country , as they would have brought peace to there holy city and this for eternity.<br /> <br /> If Israel is Truely their's , they should have no qualm giving some of it away to return the favor of the UN to those less fortunate then themself and in doing so give Palestine and Palestinian the ultimate gift of giving them there country and peace , and in doing so bring peace to themself and to there Palestinian brothers wich they would have just set free.<br /> <br /> But then that would mean that honor and justice is what Israel is made up of.<br /> <br /> The reality sadly is otherwise , they stole there country , they stole the country of the one who they should be ally and brothers with and they go at war with there neighboring country destabilizing the region.<br /> <br /> Lasting peace is always done and made by the one who is whilling to give up something.<br /> <br /> Thiefs and terrorist do not give up anything , they take whats of others.<br /> <br /> Yitzhak Rabin and Ariel Sharon where killed because they wanted to give up something.<br /> <br /> ***************************************<br /> <br /> Rabin - Sharon - Jean Paul 2 , Mandate : <br /> <br /> 1. Make peace<br /> 2. Jerusalem as a Holy city<br /> 3. Palestine and Israel as Country as equal and has brothers<br /> <br /> Give up something to gain what you really whant. 1. False and lies

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- A case was brought before the king where as two women claimed a child as there infant.

Both argued that the child was theres as he was the son of a prominant but recently deceasesed salesman and that a fortune was tied to the child , the salesman add many wife , many daughters , but only one son.

The king asked to hear both women who claimed the child as there’s

Both made a pretty decent argument as to who could be the mother.

Then the King retired to is room in order to think on the mather.

When he cameback from his thinking the next day he said that he had made a decision and that both women would receive half of the fortune and that the child would be cut in half so that each mother would receive an equal amount of the child.

The first women was very happy and agreed with the king decision.

The second one jumped to the king feet and pleaded with him to give the entire fortune to the first women but to give her the entire child or to even give the full child to the other women as she could not bare the fact of seing her child die in such circumstance.

Then the king told the second women to not fear anything as the fortune and the child was her’s from that moment and he then turned to the other women and sentenced her to death.

The women started to plea for her life but the king would not change is mind , then the mother asked the king to spare the women life , the king asked why , she said that death was what she wanted for her child and that the king denied her wish , it should be the king desire to continue in its value to protect life to choose another sentence for this women , since she wanted to be the child mother and enjoy the fortune would it not be more fitting that she be put in charge of protecting the child and fortune that she so much wanted as a servant and nourice so that she may see and enjoy what she wanted most.

and so it was.

The point is , Israelite might whant their own country and peace , but can never enjoy it by stealing it from another and denying that same country peace in turn.

If Jerusalem is truely their’s , they should have no qualm making it as the vatican is a holy city and country , as they would have brought peace to there holy city and this for eternity.

If Israel is Truely their’s , they should have no qualm giving some of it away to return the favor of the UN to those less fortunate then themself and in doing so give Palestine and Palestinian the ultimate gift of giving them there country and peace , and in doing so bring peace to themself and to there Palestinian brothers wich they would have just set free.

But then that would mean that honor and justice is what Israel is made up of.

The reality sadly is otherwise , they stole there country , they stole the country of the one who they should be ally and brothers with and they go at war with there neighboring country destabilizing the region.

Lasting peace is always done and made by the one who is whilling to give up something.

Thiefs and terrorist do not give up anything , they take whats of others.

Yitzhak Rabin and Ariel Sharon where killed because they wanted to give up something.

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Rabin – Sharon – Jean Paul 2 , Mandate :

1. Make peace
2. Jerusalem as a Holy city
3. Palestine and Israel as Country as equal and has brothers

Give up something to gain what you really whant.

]]> By: Matt http://firsttube.com/read/to-the-people-who-think-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-386 Matt Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:08:09 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/To-the-People-Who-Think-Israel#comment-386 Man what a crock... Unsigned so its gotta be true!<br /> <br /> If you wanna insite flame rather than construtive comments then this is a great post. Man what a crock… Unsigned so its gotta be true!

If you wanna insite flame rather than construtive comments then this is a great post.

]]> By: Eugenia http://firsttube.com/read/to-the-people-who-think-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-385 Eugenia Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:24:19 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/To-the-People-Who-Think-Israel#comment-385 I have given my (wise) solution here: :)<br /> <br /> <a href="http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2006/07/31/you-wont-get-this-on-cnn-v/#comments">cogscanthink.blogsome.com</a> I have given my (wise) solution here: :)

cogscanthink.blogsome.com

]]> By: K http://firsttube.com/read/to-the-people-who-think-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-439 K Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:14:38 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/To-the-People-Who-Think-Israel#comment-439 I managed to spell Israel wrong, sorry. I managed to spell Israel wrong, sorry.

]]> By: K http://firsttube.com/read/to-the-people-who-think-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-384 K Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:06:47 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/To-the-People-Who-Think-Israel#comment-384 <i>2. Arab refugees from Israel began calling themselves "Palestinians" in 1967, two decades after (modern) Israeli statehood;</i><br /> <br /> But the area has been known as Palestine for a long time, so that's a natural choice for the refugees.<br /> <br /> <i>8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem; Muslims face mecca. if they are between the two cities, Muslims pray facing mecca, with their backs to Jerusalem</i><br /> <br /> Since the earth is round you can say that about any two points, you just have to position yourself there. And just because Mecca is more holy to them than Jerusalem, doesn't mean that they don't see Jerusalem as a holy city.<br /> <br /> <i>16. Out of 175 united nations security council resolutions up to 1990, 97 were against Israel; Out of 690 general assembly resolutions, 429 were against Israel;</i><br /> <br /> Looks like they are a problem to me? Or do you think the world (UN) is wrong?<br /> <br /> <i>17. The UN was silent when the Jordanians destroyed 58 synagogues</i><br /> <br /> The UN had just been created, so they were probably too busy planning the new state of Isreal and other things.<br /> <br /> The rest of the arguments are based on religion. I don't like mixing religion with politics. "Because it's in the bible" or "They are of a different religion, so we are right" are very dangerous ideas.<br /> <br /> Don't get me wrong. I agree that <b>Isreal has a right to defend itself</b>, also against Hezbollah. But the latest war was just overkill (no pun intended). They bombed all over the place, not just where the enemy was. Not all of Lebanon agreed with Hezbollah, allthough the latest actions may have caused a few "converts" 2. Arab refugees from Israel began calling themselves “Palestinians” in 1967, two decades after (modern) Israeli statehood;

But the area has been known as Palestine for a long time, so that’s a natural choice for the refugees.

8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem; Muslims face mecca. if they are between the two cities, Muslims pray facing mecca, with their backs to Jerusalem

Since the earth is round you can say that about any two points, you just have to position yourself there. And just because Mecca is more holy to them than Jerusalem, doesn’t mean that they don’t see Jerusalem as a holy city.

16. Out of 175 united nations security council resolutions up to 1990, 97 were against Israel; Out of 690 general assembly resolutions, 429 were against Israel;

Looks like they are a problem to me? Or do you think the world (UN) is wrong?

17. The UN was silent when the Jordanians destroyed 58 synagogues

The UN had just been created, so they were probably too busy planning the new state of Isreal and other things.

The rest of the arguments are based on religion. I don’t like mixing religion with politics. “Because it’s in the bible” or “They are of a different religion, so we are right” are very dangerous ideas.

Don’t get me wrong. I agree that Isreal has a right to defend itself, also against Hezbollah. But the latest war was just overkill (no pun intended). They bombed all over the place, not just where the enemy was. Not all of Lebanon agreed with Hezbollah, allthough the latest actions may have caused a few “converts”

]]> By: frank http://firsttube.com/read/to-the-people-who-think-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-383 frank Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:02:02 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/To-the-People-Who-Think-Israel#comment-383 You must be a moron to believe everything you read on the mail (yes, including spam...). Unsigned author? Ah ah ah!<br /> <br /> Please inform yourself, don't believe the first piece of crap that is delivered to your inbox! Open your eyes! You must be a moron to believe everything you read on the mail (yes, including spam…). Unsigned author? Ah ah ah!

Please inform yourself, don’t believe the first piece of crap that is delivered to your inbox! Open your eyes!

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