Comments on: Shame on Apple!! http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/ crunchy nuggets, served semi-daily Sun, 21 Mar 2010 03:27:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Adam S http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/comment-page-1/#comment-582 Adam S Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:25:14 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/Shame-on-Apple#comment-582 <i>Apple essentially wants to own your ass by selling you some pretty toys that lock you into future purchases.</i><br /> <br /> By the way, Mark, how are Windows and Internet Explorer treating you? :) Apple essentially wants to own your ass by selling you some pretty toys that lock you into future purchases.

By the way, Mark, how are Windows and Internet Explorer treating you? :)

]]> By: Adam S http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/comment-page-1/#comment-581 Adam S Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:24:16 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/Shame-on-Apple#comment-581 <i>By buying an iPhone you only proved to the world that you are as fundamentally stupid as Apple wants you to be.</i><br /> <br /> Yay, very constructive comment, there Mark. <br /> <br /> All the apologists who defend Apple for releasing the iPhone as is, and all the people who harp on about Apple locking down the iPhone are easily dismissed clowns. The iPhone runs OS X (not Symbian or QNX) for a reason - because they *will* make the platform extensible at some point, and Apple supports its frameworks. The question really is: will Apple's as-of-yet-unannounced iPhone "SDK" actually compete with the hacked 1.0.2 firmware and Installer.app? By buying an iPhone you only proved to the world that you are as fundamentally stupid as Apple wants you to be.

Yay, very constructive comment, there Mark.

All the apologists who defend Apple for releasing the iPhone as is, and all the people who harp on about Apple locking down the iPhone are easily dismissed clowns. The iPhone runs OS X (not Symbian or QNX) for a reason – because they *will* make the platform extensible at some point, and Apple supports its frameworks. The question really is: will Apple’s as-of-yet-unannounced iPhone “SDK” actually compete with the hacked 1.0.2 firmware and Installer.app?

]]> By: Mark Piz http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/comment-page-1/#comment-192 Mark Piz Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:18:05 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/Shame-on-Apple#comment-192 Shame on YOU, and every other interface junkie who subscribed to the notion that a corporation will make their life better. Apple essentially wants to own your ass by selling you some pretty toys that lock you into future purchases. Just look at the lack of portability into the itunes / iPod line. <br /> <br /> By buying an iPhone you only proved to the world that you are as fundamentally stupid as Apple wants you to be. Shame on YOU, and every other interface junkie who subscribed to the notion that a corporation will make their life better. Apple essentially wants to own your ass by selling you some pretty toys that lock you into future purchases. Just look at the lack of portability into the itunes / iPod line.

By buying an iPhone you only proved to the world that you are as fundamentally stupid as Apple wants you to be.

]]> By: dude http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/comment-page-1/#comment-569 dude Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:31:26 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/Shame-on-Apple#comment-569 It is pointles to post here this is not an open discussion.<br /> <br /> People hack the products they buy and expect support for the vendor it is so evident that It makes no sense to complaint ... if you want an hackable phone buy one of those developers kit running linux and not an off the shel product .. buy a developer toolkit..<br /> <br /> The Iphone is a consumer product and here people does not even seem to understand what the hell this means and bold enought to put shame on apple and start this stupid libelling<br /> <br /> <i>Apple only stated that the new upgrade may brickphones, becuase the update *assumes* that it is a <b>plain unmodified iphone</b>. Know if theses hacks changes certain things that break compatibility with apple its the owners risk. Know yes the iPhone should of allowed third party apps, but i guess apple did not separate the radio from the main hardware. So a condition imposed by carriers is that no unauthorized 3rd party apps are allowed as they can bring down the network accedently or purposely. Most phones that allow for 3rd party apps have the radio hardware completely separated and isolated in hardware, allowing 3rd part apps as the risk to bringing down a mobile phone networks is averted.</i> It is pointles to post here this is not an open discussion.

People hack the products they buy and expect support for the vendor it is so evident that It makes no sense to complaint … if you want an hackable phone buy one of those developers kit running linux and not an off the shel product .. buy a developer toolkit..

The Iphone is a consumer product and here people does not even seem to understand what the hell this means and bold enought to put shame on apple and start this stupid libelling

Apple only stated that the new upgrade may brickphones, becuase the update *assumes* that it is a plain unmodified iphone. Know if theses hacks changes certain things that break compatibility with apple its the owners risk. Know yes the iPhone should of allowed third party apps, but i guess apple did not separate the radio from the main hardware. So a condition imposed by carriers is that no unauthorized 3rd party apps are allowed as they can bring down the network accedently or purposely. Most phones that allow for 3rd party apps have the radio hardware completely separated and isolated in hardware, allowing 3rd part apps as the risk to bringing down a mobile phone networks is averted.

]]> By: Adam S http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/comment-page-1/#comment-568 Adam S Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:13:58 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/Shame-on-Apple#comment-568 Wow!! <br /> <br /> Congratulations Ken on writing the dumbest comment ever!! Wow!!

Congratulations Ken on writing the dumbest comment ever!!

]]> By: ken http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/comment-page-1/#comment-567 ken Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:46:49 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/Shame-on-Apple#comment-567 Why should you be crying at Apple, if you are the one modifying the iPhone((writer of the article, Shame on Apple). Go piss in Mt. Dew and call pepsi, because it doesn't taste right anymore, because you effed around it. Why should you be crying at Apple, if you are the one modifying the iPhone((writer of the article, Shame on Apple). Go piss in Mt. Dew and call pepsi, because it doesn’t taste right anymore, because you effed around it.

]]> By: Michael Fisher http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/comment-page-1/#comment-170 Michael Fisher Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:36:46 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/Shame-on-Apple#comment-170 Apple only stated that the new upgrade may brickphones, becuase the update <b>assumes</b> that it is a <b>plain unmodified iphone</b>. Know if theses hacks changes certain things that break compatibility with apple its the owners risk. Know yes the iPhone should of allowed third party apps, but i guess apple did not separate the radio from the main hardware. So a condition imposed by carriers is that no unauthorized 3rd party apps are allowed as they can bring down the network accedently or purposely. Most phones that allow for 3rd party apps have the radio hardware completely separated and isolated in hardware, allowing 3rd part apps as the risk to bringing down a mobile phone networks is averted. Apple only stated that the new upgrade may brickphones, becuase the update assumes that it is a plain unmodified iphone. Know if theses hacks changes certain things that break compatibility with apple its the owners risk. Know yes the iPhone should of allowed third party apps, but i guess apple did not separate the radio from the main hardware. So a condition imposed by carriers is that no unauthorized 3rd party apps are allowed as they can bring down the network accedently or purposely. Most phones that allow for 3rd party apps have the radio hardware completely separated and isolated in hardware, allowing 3rd part apps as the risk to bringing down a mobile phone networks is averted.

]]> By: Lopez http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/comment-page-1/#comment-169 Lopez Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:43:41 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/Shame-on-Apple#comment-169 Hi, I agree. When the iPhone was announced, at first, I was enthusiastic about it. When I heard that it will be sealed down like this, and that the only "software" allowed would be "widgets", I was sad. Exactly for the reasons You name: I love the mac since years, and Apple's way, because with Mac OS X they put together what no one else could: An elegant, stable workhorse which is at the same time open source to a great extent, and very modular. It can be extended and enriched almost anywhere. With the iPhone and iPod this has radically changed. The days of "Think Different" sound sadly far, far, far away from today's Apple and today's Steve Jobs. I wonder sometimes how he can talk about Karma and buddhism and then act this way. When I saw the podcast at D5 between him and Bill Gates, I thought, maybe he got some advice from him? The iPhone and most of the hardware iStuff is so extremely proprietary and profit-oriented, in its philosophy, that they made me lose much of my love for this great company. For now, I'll keep my macs, I love them too much not to, but I *hope* this iTrend does not flood the macs and OS X. BTW, I'm keeping an eye on OpenMoko (http://www.openmoko.org and .com). It looks like a viable alternative to the sadly crippled iPhone. I agree on the boycot, for my part at least I'm not going to buy any Apple product or start any Software Update app on my macs... <br /> Lopez Hi, I agree. When the iPhone was announced, at first, I was enthusiastic about it. When I heard that it will be sealed down like this, and that the only “software” allowed would be “widgets”, I was sad. Exactly for the reasons You name: I love the mac since years, and Apple’s way, because with Mac OS X they put together what no one else could: An elegant, stable workhorse which is at the same time open source to a great extent, and very modular. It can be extended and enriched almost anywhere. With the iPhone and iPod this has radically changed. The days of “Think Different” sound sadly far, far, far away from today’s Apple and today’s Steve Jobs. I wonder sometimes how he can talk about Karma and buddhism and then act this way. When I saw the podcast at D5 between him and Bill Gates, I thought, maybe he got some advice from him? The iPhone and most of the hardware iStuff is so extremely proprietary and profit-oriented, in its philosophy, that they made me lose much of my love for this great company. For now, I’ll keep my macs, I love them too much not to, but I *hope* this iTrend does not flood the macs and OS X. BTW, I’m keeping an eye on OpenMoko (http://www.openmoko.org and .com). It looks like a viable alternative to the sadly crippled iPhone. I agree on the boycot, for my part at least I’m not going to buy any Apple product or start any Software Update app on my macs…
Lopez

]]> By: Shempdogg http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/comment-page-1/#comment-438 Shempdogg Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:12:06 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/Shame-on-Apple#comment-438 Listen up PC and Mac users(I have both). We are all screwed in the long run with this type of bullsh@t going on. Steve Jobs has already lost me as a "long time" loyal mac customer. I have my original quadra sitting in my garage with the Original photoshop 4 that are collecting dust. I bought the 8gig about 1month after they came out and was f@cked in the @ss by apple when they dropped the price by $200. That means if I wanted to sell my 8gig iphone now I could only sell it for maybe $325 if Im lucky. I have had the worst experience in my life with this phone and att. My phone actually doesnt even work inside my house. ATT said they think a new cell tower is being installed somewhere in my area but not sure. <br /> <br /> So, the article that this dude wrote is 100% correct except for the fact that he still likes apple after being butt f@cked up and down by them.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.thanksforfuckingmeapple.com" rel="nofollow">www.thanksforfuckingmeapple.com</a> Listen up PC and Mac users(I have both). We are all screwed in the long run with this type of bullsh@t going on. Steve Jobs has already lost me as a “long time” loyal mac customer. I have my original quadra sitting in my garage with the Original photoshop 4 that are collecting dust. I bought the 8gig about 1month after they came out and was f@cked in the @ss by apple when they dropped the price by $200. That means if I wanted to sell my 8gig iphone now I could only sell it for maybe $325 if Im lucky. I have had the worst experience in my life with this phone and att. My phone actually doesnt even work inside my house. ATT said they think a new cell tower is being installed somewhere in my area but not sure.

So, the article that this dude wrote is 100% correct except for the fact that he still likes apple after being butt f@cked up and down by them.

http://www.thanksforfuckingmeapple.com

]]> By: Adam S http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/comment-page-1/#comment-566 Adam S Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:30:16 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/Shame-on-Apple#comment-566 Apple should sue me? Yeah, because that would make a lot of sense. Also, I'm sure they could demonstrate actual damages. <br /> <br /> Pshaw. Apple should sue me? Yeah, because that would make a lot of sense. Also, I’m sure they could demonstrate actual damages.

Pshaw.

]]> By: Art Vandelay http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/comment-page-1/#comment-167 Art Vandelay Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:28:38 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/Shame-on-Apple#comment-167 I agree. I am in the process of selling my MacBook while I wait for my ThinkPad R61 to be delivered. I am sick of Apple and drinking Steve Jobs' Kool-Aid. They have become what they used to abhor - a monopolistic, greedy bunch of thugs that screws its most loyal customers. I agree. I am in the process of selling my MacBook while I wait for my ThinkPad R61 to be delivered. I am sick of Apple and drinking Steve Jobs’ Kool-Aid. They have become what they used to abhor – a monopolistic, greedy bunch of thugs that screws its most loyal customers.

]]> By: Thomas http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/comment-page-1/#comment-565 Thomas Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:07:34 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/Shame-on-Apple#comment-565 Could you please remove the doubled comments? There was an error each time, I didn't know that this is published each time. sorry Could you please remove the doubled comments? There was an error each time, I didn’t know that this is published each time. sorry

]]> By: Thomas http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/comment-page-1/#comment-168 Thomas Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:05:32 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/Shame-on-Apple#comment-168 by Thomas tkronlachner]at[gmail . com<br /> I completle agree with you. What made apple big in my eyes, is the loyal customer base, Steve is spitting on now. I owe a mac and it is the best PC I've had so far. So what Steve is doing right now is destroying his own brand. For me, apple is on the way to become the new microsoft. I don't think that Steve, then can rely on the customer base, to follow him when he fullfills this move. The customers are much more aware of what is going to happen. So for me until they calm down, no more apple products. by Thomas tkronlachner]at[gmail . com
I completle agree with you. What made apple big in my eyes, is the loyal customer base, Steve is spitting on now. I owe a mac and it is the best PC I’ve had so far. So what Steve is doing right now is destroying his own brand. For me, apple is on the way to become the new microsoft. I don’t think that Steve, then can rely on the customer base, to follow him when he fullfills this move. The customers are much more aware of what is going to happen. So for me until they calm down, no more apple products.

]]> By: Dude http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/comment-page-1/#comment-166 Dude Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:16:18 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/Shame-on-Apple#comment-166 How can you state either in private or in public (as you did here) that Apple will Brick Phones?<br /> <br /> This is not true, you have not a single proof that they are doing it intentionally, they just said that because people have messed up their phones (something that voids warranty for your information) they might even stop working (as they have observed during the SQA of new releases) with future upgrades.<br /> <br /> Users voids worranty and then blame apple?<br /> <br /> Apple should sue you and ask damages for this.<br /> <br /> If you hacked your phone ... blame yourself. Everytime it is always the same story people hack it because they want to feel geek and cool and they do it just to do it and not even because they really need it and now if something .. later on ... goes wrong thay want to blame apple with is guaranteeing that the phone will work taken for granted the factory conditions .. not the hacks How can you state either in private or in public (as you did here) that Apple will Brick Phones?

This is not true, you have not a single proof that they are doing it intentionally, they just said that because people have messed up their phones (something that voids warranty for your information) they might even stop working (as they have observed during the SQA of new releases) with future upgrades.

Users voids worranty and then blame apple?

Apple should sue you and ask damages for this.

If you hacked your phone … blame yourself. Everytime it is always the same story people hack it because they want to feel geek and cool and they do it just to do it and not even because they really need it and now if something .. later on … goes wrong thay want to blame apple with is guaranteeing that the phone will work taken for granted the factory conditions .. not the hacks

]]> By: BlackTigerâ„¢ http://firsttube.com/read/Shame-on-Apple/comment-page-1/#comment-564 BlackTigerâ„¢ Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:53:34 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/Shame-on-Apple#comment-564 Sometimes seems like SJ sold his solve to Devil...<br /> He is so much greedful and sometimes doing so moronic things.<br /> <br /> Apple will be killed by greediness and arrogance. Sometimes seems like SJ sold his solve to Devil…
He is so much greedful and sometimes doing so moronic things.

Apple will be killed by greediness and arrogance.

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