Comments on: A Final Word on the Firefox Fiasco http://firsttube.com/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco/ crunchy nuggets, served semi-daily Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:18:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Jose http://firsttube.com/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-2388 Jose Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:02:59 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco#comment-2388 Back to FF 3.0.12 Back to FF 3.0.12

]]> By: firsttube.com » Blog Archive » Firefox: Like An Old Shoe http://firsttube.com/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-1224 firsttube.com » Blog Archive » Firefox: Like An Old Shoe Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:21:57 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco#comment-1224 [...] browser to use on my Windows machine at work. Firefox has let me down many times before, and the Mozilla Firefox developers have disappointed me. So I switched to Opera, and it’s made me very happy. I have really learned to love Speed [...] [...] browser to use on my Windows machine at work. Firefox has let me down many times before, and the Mozilla Firefox developers have disappointed me. So I switched to Opera, and it’s made me very happy. I have really learned to love Speed [...]

]]> By: firsttube.com » Blog Archive » To Thread Or Not To Thread http://firsttube.com/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-691 firsttube.com » Blog Archive » To Thread Or Not To Thread Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:28:05 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco#comment-691 [...] think that you should always cater to the dumbest possible user and build from there. There are those who do cater to the least technical user, there are those whose work suffers because they end up with a bland compromise, and there are [...] [...] think that you should always cater to the dumbest possible user and build from there. There are those who do cater to the least technical user, there are those whose work suffers because they end up with a bland compromise, and there are [...]

]]> By: Steven http://firsttube.com/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Steven Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:22:27 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco#comment-14 Hey don't use IE yet! There's another option! There's a good chance the devs working on the Flock web browser could be much more sympathetic to your cause! Why not give them a shout? <br /> <br /> Flock - the social web browser<br /> "Flock is an amazing new web browser that makes it easier to share media and connect to other people online. Share photos, automatically stay up-to-date with new content from your favorite sites, and search the Web with the most advanced Search Toolbar available today."<br /> <a href="http://www.flock.com/" rel="nofollow">www.flock.com</a><br /> <br /> Available for Win32, Linux and OSX (coming soon if not already!).<br /> <br /> On the other hand, I'm really glad to see that Google Reader appears to have none of these issues you point out. <a href="http://google.com/reader/view" rel="nofollow">google.com</a><br /> <br /> In my opinion I would still choose to use Firefox with Google Reader a long time before going over to IE. Hey don’t use IE yet! There’s another option! There’s a good chance the devs working on the Flock web browser could be much more sympathetic to your cause! Why not give them a shout?

Flock – the social web browser
“Flock is an amazing new web browser that makes it easier to share media and connect to other people online. Share photos, automatically stay up-to-date with new content from your favorite sites, and search the Web with the most advanced Search Toolbar available today.”
http://www.flock.com

Available for Win32, Linux and OSX (coming soon if not already!).

On the other hand, I’m really glad to see that Google Reader appears to have none of these issues you point out. google.com

In my opinion I would still choose to use Firefox with Google Reader a long time before going over to IE.

]]> By: Adam S http://firsttube.com/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-453 Adam S Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:04:56 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco#comment-453 Well, in that case, you're dead on! That's why the decision is all the more crazy. It's an egregious interruption of service for technical folks who DO use it to cater to people who DON'T use it, and furthermore, as we both agree, probably WON'T EVER use it. <br /> <br /> In the meantime, my stuff is broken. Well, in that case, you’re dead on! That’s why the decision is all the more crazy. It’s an egregious interruption of service for technical folks who DO use it to cater to people who DON’T use it, and furthermore, as we both agree, probably WON’T EVER use it.

In the meantime, my stuff is broken.

]]> By: Thom Holwerda http://firsttube.com/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-436 Thom Holwerda Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:48:47 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco#comment-436 Hey I was indeed speaking for myself, if other people see uses for RSS, great, it's not like it is in my way or anything.<br /> <br /> However, I still believe it won't withstand the test of time, with which I mean that it won't expand into every-day use as webbrowsing or emailing has. Of course it will not disappear or anything, I just don't think it will see a sudden explosion in use among non-technical users.<br /> <br /> I don't think any of my friends know the term 'RSS'. Hey I was indeed speaking for myself, if other people see uses for RSS, great, it’s not like it is in my way or anything.

However, I still believe it won’t withstand the test of time, with which I mean that it won’t expand into every-day use as webbrowsing or emailing has. Of course it will not disappear or anything, I just don’t think it will see a sudden explosion in use among non-technical users.

I don’t think any of my friends know the term ‘RSS’.

]]> By: Adam S http://firsttube.com/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-452 Adam S Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:32:56 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco#comment-452 Um.. Thom, this is truly spoken like someone who simply DOESN'T KNOW a better way to use it. Just because YOU don't know of ways RSS is useful doesn't mean there aren't any. <br /> <br /> We have a web service that returns search results as styled XML. If you run it in your browser, it looks like a web page. If you run it via a remote web service, it returns as XML which can be parsed. This doesn't work in FF2. I supposed we could changed it to non-RSS XML, but then everyone who uses it will have to change their parser. <br /> <br /> Anyway, who cares? Even if this were a hypothetical, this is exactly how the people who wrote standards desc ribed it: hey, use XML, and then use XSLT to transform and style it. That is, until Firefox came a long and decided that they know better and this one kind of XML is exempt from the standard, even if it's just the de facto standard. <br /> <br /> I'm sorry you don't see a better use for RSS, but some of us do, some of us have been using it for some time, and Firefox has just borked it. Um.. Thom, this is truly spoken like someone who simply DOESN’T KNOW a better way to use it. Just because YOU don’t know of ways RSS is useful doesn’t mean there aren’t any.

We have a web service that returns search results as styled XML. If you run it in your browser, it looks like a web page. If you run it via a remote web service, it returns as XML which can be parsed. This doesn’t work in FF2. I supposed we could changed it to non-RSS XML, but then everyone who uses it will have to change their parser.

Anyway, who cares? Even if this were a hypothetical, this is exactly how the people who wrote standards desc ribed it: hey, use XML, and then use XSLT to transform and style it. That is, until Firefox came a long and decided that they know better and this one kind of XML is exempt from the standard, even if it’s just the de facto standard.

I’m sorry you don’t see a better use for RSS, but some of us do, some of us have been using it for some time, and Firefox has just borked it.

]]> By: Thom Holwerda http://firsttube.com/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-435 Thom Holwerda Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:19:46 +0000 http://firsttubecom/read/A-Final-Word-on-the-Firefox-Fiasco#comment-435 RSS is overrated anyway, and I sincerely doubt it will withstand the test of time in webbrowsers. You see, RSS is only *really* useful, in my experience, for limited devices such as phones and PDAs, for which RSS is a method of getting news using less data than when visiting the complete website. However, I just don't see why someone would want to visit a web feed through a webbrowser, when you can just visit the webstie... In that same webbrowser. Seriously, what's the point? It feels like putting a videocamera in front of a television, and then watch TV through the camera's viewfinder. It's just doesn't make sense. RSS is overrated anyway, and I sincerely doubt it will withstand the test of time in webbrowsers. You see, RSS is only *really* useful, in my experience, for limited devices such as phones and PDAs, for which RSS is a method of getting news using less data than when visiting the complete website. However, I just don’t see why someone would want to visit a web feed through a webbrowser, when you can just visit the webstie… In that same webbrowser. Seriously, what’s the point? It feels like putting a videocamera in front of a television, and then watch TV through the camera’s viewfinder. It’s just doesn’t make sense.

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